Weather Modification in Wyoming

Weather Modification in Wyoming

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Wyoming legislature appropriated funds to
promote a transition from a research-based
cloud seeding trials to operational cloud
seeding projects. Wyoming Chronicle
travels to an operational ground based cloud seeding
site in the Wind River Range to learn the history
and the expectations of weather modification
in Wyoming. Next, on Wyoming Chronicle. (triumphant orchestral music) – [Announcer] Funding
for this program was provided in part
by the Wyoming Public Television Endowment
and viewers like you. – My name is Michael Paul. I work for Weather
Modification Incorporated, and this here is one of our
ground seeding generators in the Wind River
Range in Wyoming. I’m basically just
gonna walk you through sort of how it operates
and how it works. So we run these remotely,
and we have a satellite modem at the top that gets our signal. It has a computer box that will turn on the generator, which
will have the propane tank that will turn on our burner. From there, it will heat up,
temp sensor will come on, and tell our solutions
tank, which is right there full of our seeding agent,
to pressurize the system, and it will release the
agent into the atmosphere. We have our nitrogen
tank that pressurizes the solution system, so
that we can get it up to 25 feet, where our tower is at. We have it up there so that
the wind can carry our plume to the target range,
which is the Wind Rivers, which are behind us over here. A little windier up there. (laughs) So, it’s a pretty
straight-forward system, really. The solar panel
charges four batteries in our battery pack
there, and you know, that can power the system
for all winter long. So I think we’ll go ahead
and get it turned on here. Right now, the propane
flame is coming on. It’s heating up the system,
and then once it heats up, it will turn the
solution tank on, and it will push
the solution out, and you’ll see a bigger
flame coming out. (wind rushing) – Our thanks to Michael
Paul from WMI for showing us how this weather
modification apparatus works, and we’re pleased now to
be joined by Jeni Cederle who’s a project
manager for the Wyoming Water Development Office,
and Barry Lawrence, the Office’s Deputy Director. Welcome to Wyoming Chronicle. – Thank you. – Let’s start with the history
of weather modification, Barry, and let me
begin with you. This is a technology
that has evolved over the last 60 or 70 years. – That is correct, and in the
state of Wyoming actually, weather modification has
gone on since the early ’50s, where individual
proponents would come to the State Engineer’s Office,
ask for a renewable permit every year to do various
weather modification activities across the state in
various different areas. The longest running program
in the state of Wyoming however, without a
doubt is the Eden Valley Irrigation District,
out of Farson. We’ve been running
their program, targeting the Big Sandy Draw
and the Wind River Range, and that’s been
running since the ’70s where they started a
program, it was basically a turnkey system give to Eden
Valley Irrigation District working with the
University of Wyoming. – So, what have we learned? How has this technology evolved? How do we know it works? Jeni, what do we know
about cloud seeding? – What do we know
about cloud seeding? Well, we’re very confident
that the technology behind cloud seeding
is successful. There’s was a research
project, Wyoming legislature funded a research project
that started in 2005 and ran to about 2014,
so almost 10 years long. The research-based
weather modification was the Wyoming Weather
Modification pilot program, and it did provide
us the background to let us know that cloud
seeding is technically viable for the state of Wyoming. It was a ground
based seeding program that targeted the Medicine
Bow Sierra Madre Mountains and the Wind River Range. – We’re here in the
middle of summertime, but in Wyoming, this
is a winter project. When does it begin? – Well, the program typically
begins early November, mid-November, and we’ll
run typically into April. – And this isn’t a project
that just runs all winter long. There are certain
atmospheric conditions that allow the
project to function. Talk about those
Jeni, could you. – Certainly, so when
we start looking for suitable conditions
for cloud seeding in the Wind River Range,
really we need the presence of clouds with super
cold liquid water. That’s one of the
first things we need. From there, you have
to start looking at the temperature of the cloud, anywhere from minus five to
minus six degrees celsius, I believe that’s minus
23 degrees Fahrenheit. – Plus 23 degrees. – Plus 23, thank you, plus
23 degrees Fahrenheit. It depends on which type
of program you’re running. In the Wind River
Range, we’re running ten ground based generators, so
what’s a really important factor there is wind
speed and wind direction because once, as
Michael showed you, the plume is atomized
in the propane flame, and we have this non-visible
vapor that goes up, it’s the wind speed
and the wind direction that carries it over the
barrier and into the cloud where the super cold
liquid is present, and then that interacts
with the ice nuclei that was in the vapor,
and can create snow. – A super cool liquid is water
that is below 32 degrees, but not yet frozen. – Yeah, people are
pretty shocked sometimes when you find out that water
can still be in liquid form below the freezing level,
but that’s what happens. – So why silver iodide?
Why does that work? Can you give us a little bit
of a science lesson here? – Oh gosh, I don’t know, okay. So, the silver iodide detracts
the water once it’s in cloud. What it does is, it’s
crystalline features, it’s six-sided, very similar
to that of snowflakes, and so it’s very
conducive to forming snow. – And these are projects that
aren’t unique to Wyoming. Many, many other states, Barry, also utilize this technology. – That is very correct, and
probably one of the biggest eye-openers is finding
out how much of this is going on around
the state of Wyoming. You might be surprised to know that a lot of the
western states, Colorado, Utah, Idaho,
even in California there’s cloud seeding going on. – And what do we know
about the end product? How do we know that it
works, and to what extent does cloud seeding work? – Okay, well obviously
one of the reasons that we embarked on the
large research project was to look at that. Does it make sense for Wyoming? What is the difference
we’re going to be making? What is the additional water
we’re gonna get in the system? Because ultimately,
it’s about the water and the stakeholders. So Wyoming embarked
on a large, ten year research project to
come up with that. What are the increases? You know, and it was
based on physical and statistical
evidence and so forth, looking at layers of
evidence to come up with the additional amount of
snow pack one might receive. But then not only just
stopping at the snow pack where a lot of programs
do, taking it another link in the chain to actually
look at the hydrology. Well, if you get the 10%
increase in snow pack, what does that mean to
additional water in the system? Because ultimately, it is about the water and the stakeholders. – And what percentages
are we talking about? General research I
think, that I have read, says between five
and 15% increase in precipitation
from any given storm. Is that accurate?
– That is correct. That is what our study found. – Does that hold
in all of Wyoming? Does it work in some
areas or not in others, or is it all about
atmospheric conditions? – Obviously it’s about
atmospheric conditions, but obviously it’s
about the barrier that you’re working with. The Med Bow Sierra
Madre’s for instance, program is totally different
than the Wind River Range. You’ve got a much more
pronounced barrier in the Wind River
Range, you don’t have all the foothills and so forth. So that program was
designed differently. – Now, we’re in the
southern most generator in the Wind River Range, but
there are 10 in the system. How is the placement
of these generators, how is that decided? What’s the science behind that? – I can tell you that when
they placed the generators in the Wind River Range, a
lot of thought went into it. Scientists at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research actually did
trajectory modeling. They did back trajectory
modeling with a SCIPUFF model, and they looked to see, well
where was that parcel of air 20 to 30 minutes before
it hit the mountain range? Where did it originate from? So from there, they
could do their sighting of their generators. So these were all
strategically placed. – How do we know that it’s safe? Many of our viewers
have to be wondering, is modification of weather
number one, needed at all, but number two, is it safe? How do we know that
injecting silver iodide into the atmosphere is safe? – Well I can tell you
there’s been numerous studies that have looked at
this, and I can tell you in all cases, that
it’s just not an issue. In the Wyoming project,
obviously when we embarked on the operations,
one of the things that folks were interested in, well we needed to look at that. We needed to do due diligence. We needed to look at is there
an environmental issue here. So we did background
monitoring of the silver before we began seeding, and
then throughout the program, before seeding events, after
seeding events and so forth. What the scientists and the
folks that conducted this, were the Desert Research
Institute out of Reno, Nevada which are very good
at what they do. They came out in
there clean suits, collected the snow, did the
snow chemistry sampling, and what they were finding
were levels of silver five to ten parts per trillion, which would be lower than
… I mean you’d have to have magnitudes of order
greater to be any risk. – Is silver iodide
the only technology that different
systems use to enhance precipitation recovery with
cloud seeding programs? – There are other
ways of doing that. Some programs
obviously use propane, propane generators and so forth. Actually, they’re propane
units that would be placed higher up on a mountain
top and through release of propane into a cloud,
you have to be in cloud, but it actually starts
the freezing process. – So there’s some summertime
programs that use dry ice that absorb the water
and attract it to it. They’re more for rain
enhancement programs, but dry ice is
another mechanism. – Are there summer programs
that operate in Wyoming? – No, not at this time.
– All are winter programs. Jeni, earlier this
summer, you were at a public meeting in
Saratoga where the results of a study relative
to the Sierra Madre and Medicine Bowl
Mountain Ranges, that information was
released to the public. What did we learn, and how
is that project coming along? – Well, that study,
that public hearing presented the results of a final
design and permitting study that had gone on,
started in 2015. The result of that study,
what we were aiming to do was develop an
operational program in the Medicine Bow
Sierra Madre Range, that was based
off of the results of the ten year
research project. So that kind of fed and
rolled into this study. What we’re seeing
right now is that for the Medicine Bow
Sierra Madre Ranges, an aircraft seeding
program may be the most cost beneficial for us. No decisions have been made
how we’re going to proceed, but we did take a look
at building a robust generator network out
there, did some modeling, figured out what
the impacts were, what maybe our
seeding effect was, which actually came into
line with the results of the pilot study,
the research program, but just based on cost alone,
we might be taking a look at trying to build an
airborne seeding program in the Med Bow Sierra Madre. – I thought it was interesting
in that public hearing, the discussion of
how computer modeling was applied to this program. The NCAR supercomputer that
sits near Laramie and Cheyenne was used in the
modeling and forecasting of how this program could work. What did you learn
about its use? – Well, what’s exciting for me, coming in, I’m fairly
new to the project. Barry was the beginning
of the research project, and he carried it all the
way through to the end, and then I kind of stepped
in as we transitioned, as the state transitioned
from research-based weather modification studies
to try and really get, as Barry has taught me,
boots on the ground, more operational. A piece of that study
that you’re referring to with the supercomputer modeling,
it was really interesting because NCAR designed
a new approach. Earlier in this interview,
you were talking about how the technology
has gone forward from when we started
the research project to where we are now,
and it truly has gone leaps and bounds forward. So the type of
modeling that was done is referred to as
ensemble modeling where they take
several different cases from that research program, and they run hundreds
of runs, just to– – Simulations. – Yeah, simulations
which helps reduce the uncertainty of the results. So what we’re taking
away from that is, we had some numbers you
know, seeding effectiveness numbers five to 15%
per suitable storm over a certain percentage
of area back ten years ago. Move future forward
with newer technology and you refine it, but it
still is within that realm. So we know that we’re really
close to a true answer. – Using maybe less resources,
less silver iodide, to create the same results
in a more exact way? – I couldn’t speak to that
because that really depends on what you’re final design is. How many generators
you opt to use, you know, one range, two ranges. Each range is kind
of unique in what the final design setup would be. – I thought it was interesting
in researching this program that Wyoming isn’t
the only benefactor of Wyoming’s cloud
seeding programs. Barry, there are other states
that are highly interested in our ability to
enhance water supplies, especially those that end
up in the Colorado River. – That is correct, and
over the past decade while Wyoming has
embarked on this, a lot of eyes have
been on Wyoming, and the inquiries and so forth from other water
agencies, other states, so forth, on what
Wyoming has done because the state has a
lot to be proud of here in pushing the science forward. I really believe we have
pushed the science forward, allowing folks
such as Idaho Power to build on what we’ve
done in western Wyoming and in their own operations
in Idaho and so forth. So there is a lot of
interest in what we’ve done, but in the Colorado River,
based on what you mentioned, there’s acute interest,
obviously the issues in the Colorado River Basin,
the shortages of water and so forth, down
the system so forth, and so much so that
they’ve been willing to invest in the
Wyoming program. When I say lower basin,
I’m talking about folks such as, some of the
lower basin entities, the water purveyors
in the states of Arizona, Nevada,
California, so forth, interested in the
Wyoming program. – Not only they are interested, they are helping
pay for the program. – That is correct. – How are they doing that? – Basically, the
way it’s set up, annually we go through
agreements with those entities, and right now it’s set
up as a cost share, where we pay 25% of the cost,
and those lower basin folks are paying 75% of the
cost to operating here in the Wind River Range. – Barry, there must
be some thought given to the economic value
of additional water. Five to 15% in a water basin. What is that value? Have we looked at
assigning, you know what, this is really generating
x amount of dollars worth of water, not only for
Wyoming, but those downstream? – And that’s key. I mean, does it make sense for
Wyoming to continue in this? And to look at that,
as I mentioned earlier, we didn’t want to stop at
increase in precipitation. We wanted to go the
next link in the chain. Actually, what additional water does that mean in the system? Because ultimately,
it is about the water in the system for
the stakeholders. So to that end, we did a
lot of hydrologic modeling and so forth, taking
that five, 10, 15 percent regime in the Med
Bow Sierra Madre, and then routing it
through the system to see how many additional
acre-foot of water we’re gonna get by doing that, and then obviously
if you know the cost of your program, then
you can figure out dollars per acre-foot. And when that was done, low end is in the 30 to 35 dollar range. High end, up to a 100
dollars per acre-foot. But somewhere in there
depending on the effectiveness of the program and how much
of the range you’re targeting. – So are there thoughts
that other mountain ranges in Wyoming might be
an applicable place if you will for water
seeding programs? Or, have we looked at
the mountain ranges where this is gonna
work the best? – Well, we’ve certainly …
The legislatures asked us to look at other
mountain ranges, so most recently along with
the Med Bows and Sierra Madre, looking at transitioning
to operational. We’ve looked at the
Laramie Range now. We’ve also looked at
the Bighorn range, which Jeni managed
those programs. We’ve also looked
at the Wyoming range in addition to what we’ve done
here in the Wind River Range. – Is there pushback that
either your office gets or that you hear of indirectly
through the legislature that people that have
concerns about this program? Is it a matter of education? What do you hear, and what
are the major objections if there are any? – Certainly we do
receive from time to time inquiries and so forth,
and we’re happy to respond to those inquiries. One of the best things
we can do, obviously, is public outreach
and education I think because if the folks out there get learned about it, there
much more intimidated by it or worry about the program, and really education
outreach is the key to this. From the beginning of
the project, throughout, you just never can
stop telling the story, and we really believe that. I think once people understand what we’re doing and
what we’re not doing, then there’s a level of
comfort with the program. – Is there research
out there that does cause pause for
you or for others that are operating programs
similar, to your knowledge? – I’m not aware of
any such research, no. – I thought it was
interesting too that there are
conditions or times when you’ll shut the system
down if certain water goals or precipitation goals
have been reached, and in fact that happened
at this very site just this last winter. How do you monitor how
long the system should run, and when you’ve caused enough? – A really important
part of any operational cloud seeding program
is the development of suspension criteria. For the Wind River range,
the suspension criteria that we used, that ended
up suspending the program pretty early on,
was an average look at five SNOTEL sites
around the region. So not only do we have 10
generators set up in the range, but we also use five
SNOTEL, NRCS SNOTELs to help us gauge snow pack
as we go through the season, or SWE, the Snow
Water Equivalent as we move through the season. We have a certain
threshold, set at a 140% of the April 1 amount,
and as of February 10th we were at that amount, we
had broken that threshold looking at all five
of the SNOTEL sites. We immediately
suspended operations, hoping that we would actually
be able to come back online before the season was over. This season was scheduled
to end March 31st, but mother nature beat us
to the punch, and we had, you know, excessive snowfall
amounts in the range. So we were never able to resume the cloud seeding
program this past winter. – Those of us who live in
Fremont County credit you with all the
shoveling that we did. – I know, they tend to do that. – Last winter too, but
certainly mother nature has a great majority of the
play, but one wonders if this is a matter of
robbing Peter to pay Paul. In other words, downrange,
what does your research say? Well geez, if you’re really
increasing precipitation here in Wyoming, then
what aren’t you … – Right.
– … willing to have happen downrange, and what
have you learned about what cloud
seeding does to someone who might live in Nebraska
or Iowa or somewhere east? – Okay, so that’s a common
concern that we hear a lot as we move throughout the state doing our outreach
and education. I think a really easy way
to try and describe that for the general public
is that whether or not we’re cloud seeding
in the range, it’s not linked to
whether or not a storm is going to precipitate
downwind of that mountain range. So it’s really the earth’s
natural water cycle, you know, the process
of evaporation, condensation, and precipitation. It continues downrange,
downwind of the mountain range whether or not it
has precipitated out on top of the
mountain range. And the amount of water
vapor that any storm moving up and over a
mountain range uses, is negligible compared to
the overall water budget. – As it was reported, at least
in the Sierra Madre study, I think that number
was one percent. – Exactly, one percent, and
it’s really interesting too to start comparing the
barrier precipitation storms versus the plains
because of that ongoing evaporation, condensation,
precipitation. Generally, any storm that’s
orographic in nature, you use the vertical
lift to build that and to snow out over the top
or across the leeward side, but generally your
air parcel is warming as it goes down and
drying out anyway. So it would rely on the
natural cycle to rebuild. – Well Jeni Cederle
and Barry Lawrence, it’s been a pleasure to visit
with you on Wyoming Chronicle. We want a chance to visit with
your director, Harry LaBonde. So thank you for joining us. – Thank you very much.
– Thank you. – And we’ll be right back
to visit with the director of the Wyoming Water Development
Office, Harry LaBonde. Stay tuned.
(dramatic music) Harry LaBonde now joins us. Harry is the director
of the Wyoming Water Development Office. Welcome, Harry. – Welcome back …
– Good afternoon, yeah. – … to Wyoming Chronicle. Harry, we’re at the
Anderson Ridge site where we’ve been
shooting all day. Why are these water
modification projects so important to Wyoming
from your perspective? – Well, if you
look at the mission of the Water
Development Commission and the Water
Development Office, it’s to develop water
resources for the benefit of the citizens of Wyoming. We do that through
the traditional sense, where we build water
infrastructure projects, whether it’s dams and reservoirs or water transmission
or supply projects. But also, because it
is an arid climate, there’s an opportunity
to enhance or increase the water supply through
weather modification, and that’s why Water Development
is interested in that and why we’ve been working
through research projects and now moving into
the operational phase. It’s to provide more
water ultimately, for the water users in Wyoming. I would add that there
is a secondary benefit to all of our downriver
or downstream states because Wyoming gets
to use the water first, but there is also additional
water then flowing to our neighboring states. – Harry, you’ve had support
from the legislature for these projects. Is that a challenge
now, that you now face with Wyoming’s
dwindling resources to continue either research or
operational sites like this? – Yeah, I feel
we’ve really moved to an operational
program across the state. We’ve completed
feasibility studies in the major mountain
ranges, and so our focus is operation at this point. There’s always a
challenge when competing for limited resources, i.e.
the financial resources needed to run these programs,
but I think the benefit is showing that we can, in
combination with storage, increase the water supply. It’s an incremental increase,
but that’s important in dry years, and if
you think about it, the snow that we might
generate, the extra snow, will run off in 45 to 60 days. In order for us, or in order
for water users to have a chance to use
that all year round, you really need to combine
that with storage projects. Then you can store
additional water in those good, wet years
like we had in 2017. You can carry that over
for later on in the season, or you have water available
then into 2018 or beyond, where you might get
into a drought scenario. So I think it’s a
combination of an approach of how do we develop
additional water for the state? – There are some drainages
that are more out to generate revenue from
other sources than others. Is that a concern
of your office? – Are you talking
about in terms of financial contributions
from other states? – Correct, either public
or private support elsewhere, other and different
from the state of Wyoming to support programs like this. – Well that’s certainly
a concern as well because as we bring
a financial package to the legislature,
we need to show that there is support elsewhere, whether that’s in state support or in the case of the
Wind River Mountains, our support is coming from three
downriver states primarily, Arizona, California, and Nevada. But they see the benefit of
putting more water in the system because ultimately,
that water moves to Glen Canyon Dam or Lake
Mead, and they have the ability to use that as well. So it’s very important. I think as we start
to develop programs in other basins like the
Med Bow Sierra Madre, we will be looking for
financial participants. Same way for the Bighorn. Who are the beneficiaries,
and are they willing to help finance the program
so that we can provide additional water to Wyoming? – We’re at this site, Harry. What does it cost annually
to operate a site like this? – Well, this program involves, as was mentioned
earlier, ten sites across the Wind River
Range, and in round numbers that’s been running about
$450,000 to operate. Wyoming is charged, or
our share of that is 25%. So we’re looking at roughly
$150,000 round numbers, maybe a little bit
less than that, but the remainder
of that is coming from those three downriver
states that I mentioned. It is a cooperative
program, and so that type of an approach, a
cooperative funding program, has been easy to explain
to the legislature and gain their support. As we move to other basins then, it’s gonna be important
that we show those funding partnerships in
order to expand this program, if that is the decision of the
decision-makers in the state. – Any reason in your eyes
not to expand the program other than the
fiscal constraints that might prevent
expansion, Harry? In other words, any
concerns that you hear that get to your desk,
might preclude expansion? – No, I think as we
look at other ranges, and I’ll focus on the
North Platte for a second. There is a basin that, for
all practical purposes, is fully appropriated. There’s very little additional,
unappropriated water that’s available in that system. So when we get in to
those drought years, it’s important that we maximize the water resources that
are coming into the system. As it turns out, on
the North Platte, we have a system of
federal reservoirs where the storage is really
already there in place. So if we can increase that
flow, the yield so to speak, in good, wet years,
put additional water into those reservoirs,
then it will assist in mitigating future
drought years. As we all know, Wyoming
history shows us that we will go
through wet cycles, and then we will go
through some drought cycles that are devastating to
Wyoming’s agricultural community as well as municipal and
industrial water users. – Harry LaBonde,
it’s been a pleasure. Thanks for sharing
this site with us, and thank you for joining
us on Wyoming Chronicle. – Okay, it’s been a
pleasure Craig, thank you. (triumphant orchestral music)

27 thoughts on “Weather Modification in Wyoming

  • hogcat Post author

    That tells the whole story "They give GRANTS to people to experiment. If it worked they would not need to give grants.

  • Evonna Mann Post author

    I don't think we should be manipulating the weather. Were not GOD!

  • Jeanne Selin Post author

    Humans messing w nature….not good! Maybe that's why the weather everywhere is getting so crazy. I completely disagree

  • Itis Me Post author

    I'm sure many of the naysayers in the comment sections would be the first to approve some cloud seeding if they were in a severe drought with the threat of fires breathing down their neck. Christian sorcery has nothing to do with science.

  • Thoth Post author

    if they can do this so easily, why do they simply not use this technology to fight the "forest fires" that are taking place in california?

    i think we all know the answer.

  • Melo Earth Post author

    This is what's really behind the veil of "climate". Wake up, people. Look at the chemtrails in the sky all over the globe.

  • Melo Earth Post author

    Did you all forget to inform and to ask for consent from the population anywhere to do this? No, you haven not. This is criminal. It's wrecking with weather and people are losing homes, property, their lives, even.

  • grace mora Post author

    Wake up people!!! where are all the attorneys at? What are we going to do about it? We are barring are children and our parents prematurly. It's MORE THAN THE CHEMTRIALS PEOPLE, LOOK UP BEHIND THE MOUNTAINS WHERE THERE'S NO HOMES. IN CALIFORNIA IT ALL COMING BEHIND THE MOUNTAINS…THEY LIKE LIKE THESE HUGE WHITE BILLOWING FAKE CLOUDS. THEY DO IT ALL DAY LONG. A CHEMICAL TOLD ME ITS CHEMICALS WARS FAR BEING USED ON US. WE SHOULD BE UP IN ARMS.
    I SEE PEOPLE WITH CANCER OF ALL KINDS, PREMATURE HEART CONDITIONS, WE NEED TO STOP THIS NOW. A GUY TOLD ME THAT WE ARE BEING SPAYED WITH THE SAME THING THEY SPAYED THE VIETNAM VET WITH…AGENT ORANGE.
    FIGHT BACK AND DO A CIVIL LAWSUITS. COMPARE THE COMPOUND IN WHICH WAS SPRAYED ON THE SOLDIERS AND SUE

  • ZoTv Post author

    These ground projects may in fact use silver iodide, but the larger air based projects use aluminum, strontium, and barium. All of which are poisonous to all living creatures including humans.

  • dohnnycash Post author

    The Environmentalist never talk about all of the different types of weather engineering that are being used.

  • Marcela C Post author

    Tornados in the Midwest. ?

  • Mrs. Niner Post author

    And now look how flooded the Midwest is. Thank the weather modification. You all who are affected by this need to get lawyers asap and have then remove this technology. Crazy.

  • HWUG Post author

    Silly little humans…

  • Tony Hamby Post author

    Scientists have never been wrong.

  • Tony Hamby Post author

    The climate change alarmists will be right.

  • Tony Hamby Post author

    Water taken here means less water somewhere else.

  • namasteuaz Post author

    GeoEngineeringWatch.org Dane Wigington tells it like it is around the World. Solar-Wind Power Generation advances clean energy production? Is WY doing ice nucleation, dumping aluminum, other toxic chemicals contaminating the environment? Trust WY is really on top of this. Veritas!

  • Nick Sangetta Post author

    As long as contracts are being signed and money is exchanging hands this madness will never stop. It will only grow and grow and grow.

    And are you surprised by the canned answers we are hearing here "we have the science", "we used a super computer", "we have the technology" and "we have done the studies".. blah blah blah.. SHOW US THE STUDIES!! SHOW US THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY!! And the sellouts in the mainstream media need to stop acting like weather modification is a conspiracy theory.

  • Fly Jeezy Post author

    Weather warfare.. Not global warming Not climate change Not too many people. Silent weapon for a silent war..
    Floods hurricanes earthquake volcano eruptions lightning thunderstorms etc
    Practically untraceable
    Chemtrails
    Haarp
    Geoengineering
    Aerosol injection
    Cloud seeding
    Use of lasers
    And other Weather modification programs…
    Making the planet unsuitable for humans? more suitable for them ?
    New World Order
    Everything will be weaponized even your food and water.
    Wi-Fi cell phone cell tower 5g
    Silent weapons for silent wars Order out of Chaos

  • jeremy s Post author

    Criminals

  • Anonymous Hatchet Post author

    Ephesians 6:10

  • Userzxcvn Post author

    This is why climate change is bull?

  • Sara Clark Post author

    Once again, in the ongoing episode of the U.S. government annihilating the Indians, the Wind River tribes are receiving the brunt of the chemical poisoning. Did anyone ask them for permission?

  • J.L. the Seagull Post author

    mainstream "conspiracy theories"

  • David Sims Post author

    No body talks about consequences. If you increase rainfall in one are you reduce it in another area. Scientists change theor minds on the conclusion of their studies all the time. Technology allows us to do many things. Noone ever ask should we. Their are extranal cost we dont understand yet.

  • David Sims Post author

    Wyoming need a gym.

  • Alias of an alias Post author

    So we can keep watching stuff like this and complain while doing nothing about it. Or we can just switch off and do nothing about it. Either way, we're not doing anything about it.

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